Dmt acetone instead of naphtha DCM is 1. A basic phase is hydroxanion-rich, and cation-poor (lacks protons), and those hydroxyanions disrupt interactions between acetone and water molecules. Based on this data, DMT is most soluble in toluene and dcm. Actually better, is to use some acetone or ethanol, redisslve it and re Alternatively use heptane instead of naphtha as DMT is less soluble in cold temperatures in heptane. after all you can just mix bleach and acetone. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? Instead it will form a blob then, which looks like this and will settle down immediately instead of having to wait. Members. DMT is 99% freebased at pH 10. DMT is moderately soluble in room-temperature naphtha, but barely soluble in ice-cold naphtha. dissolving 2,4 g NaCl in ONE of the 2 samples (ratio retrieved from Max ION TEK) 4. ). 6, Toluene is 2. Before starting the re-x process, you need to decide how much DMT you will re-x. The biggest advantage of naphtha is that the solubility of DMT in naphtha is temperature-dependent. Then proceed to pull with naphtha as usual in the correct container. crystallizing dmt out of acetone always yielded an oily mess for me that didn't want to crystallize fully. I was thinking maybe chloroform would be easier to get a hold of, after all you can just mix bleach and acetone. Then pull with naphtha. tspirit said: - basify water SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Azure Naphtha (search on ebay) or clipper fluid from Poundland. Would you not get purer/bigger crystals by recrystallizing extracted dmt in acetone? Freebase DMT is very soluble in acetone. young_bot #1. ) and lightly shake or stir for 5-10 min then let sit for 2 hours. 5. My question is should I leave the naphtha to fully evaporate for a few days? Thanks Welcome to /r/DMT. A specific kind of mineral spirit being naphtha. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. It takes less time and energy to distill it. Thread starter . As a general rule-of-thumb with regard to solubilities of alkaloid salts, water>methanol>ethanol>isopropanol>acetone>MEK. This way you get all the DMT as well as the DMT N-Oxide. Do not believe the QT tek. All-the-sane #1. B) The solvent mix 1:4 Acetone:Naphtha will not EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. New Dissolve 309 mg of Fumaric acid in another batch of 50 ml of Acetone. Joined: 16-Jan-2009. Collect powder, and add about 50mL naphtha per gram, mix well. My first attempt was DMT benzoate, but it crashes from PG at room temp. Stick with xylene, toluene, benzen, ethyl acetate etc. If you want to extract DMT N-Oxide as well then use dichloromethane, ether, or chloroform instead of naphtha or heptane. Posted : 6/15/2009 1:16:52 PM DMT-Nexus member. When you freeze precipitate the DMT in heptane or naphtha, the DMT N-Oxide will not dissolve in the solvent and will sink EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. You will generally get more lipids, fats, oils, etc from the bark when using naphtha, this will create more yellow dmt crystals (during crystallization) with some brownish goo on the bottom that some people call jungle spice or polymorphs (chains of dmt). Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. This makes it much safer for the layman than playing with strong lye solutions and being exposed to the vapors of Naphtha-NPS good for pulling DMT only, no jungle spice-boiling range 30-200°C (full range naphtha)-fast evaporation, odor better than toluene/xylene Water washed away fumaric acid and acetone, leaving back clean xylene (plus the yellowy plant oils that dissolved into it). DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. Do you just do a usual naphtha tek, and when you pull the naphtha, instead of letting the naphtha evaporate, or doing a freeze precip, you just mix vinegar with the naphtha, mix and let sit for a bit, then collect the vinegar and let the vinegar evaporate. A double boil allows even heat distribution by heating through contact with the water surrounding the jar instead of heating it through contact with the bottom of the pot. SWIM prefers to siphon it off using something like a turkey baster, then let Trying to do an extraction Acacia following Cyb's hybrid tek. With extracting dmt, is heptane better than using naphtha? i read that heptane speeds up the reaction much more than naphtha. It may be that you've got all that there is to get and the DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts Mescaline CIELO TEK DMT salt e-juice HIELO TEK Salvinorin Chilled Acetone with IPA and Naphtha re-X TEK The result from sulfuric acid is beautiful too and the xtalization is much faster (30min instead of 24 hours). The only reason for ever using naphtha is because it is cheaper. solvent used instead of naphtha: Options . I will say that 69ron’s Dlimone tek is meh. Can I use acetone as naphtha substitute? Extraction Question/Discussion I can’t get zippo lighter fluid where I live Perfectly white xtals instead of yellowish. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT Sodium (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO : 02-Dec-2011. The dry residue is washed with naphtha and then recrystallized from boiling 99% IPA with a naphtha co-solvent addition. Unfortunately, acetic anhydride is a chemical that is hard to obtain (listed precursor), so a home chemist is probably left with recrystallization and chromatography. Dissolved everything together in acetone for a DMT-Fumerate FASA conversion. you can also reuse that naphtha, now that its not up in smoke. As soon as I get all of my lab grade Sodium DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO : Options . Chlorophyll is somewhat soluble in naphtha, salvinorin A is insoluble in naphtha. What I have already found out about sodium carbonate is that one cant basify MHRB with sodium carbonate and pull it with naphtha or xylene, they would have to pull it w/ DCM. Acetone is 0. Location: Georgia. But it will contain a lot of Acetone, which will slowly drip out. Let it sit a few hours mixing occasionally and making sure it stays wet. Joinery Router Bits Naphtha-NPS good for pulling DMT only, no jungle spice-boiling range 30-200°C (full range naphtha) Water washed away fumaric acid and acetone, leaving back clean xylene (plus the yellowy plant oils that dissolved into it). Could I then purify the crude extract by dissolving it in warm naphtha and leaving it to freeze precipitate? Any advice is welcome :D Well, if you evaporate your naphtha to recover DMT it isn't entirely unexpected for it to form an oil. YOUR BODY CAN BREAK THEM Hey people, I'm interested in using d-Limonene isntead of naphtha in an A/B extraction. Not sure if it happened but I remember a thread in 2018 between a dmt user and a representative for zippo confirming it’s no longer naphtha but a very similar petroleum distillate. Appearance: Oily forms a SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. This tek uses only citric acid, fumaric acid, acetone, sodium carbonate, and water. Posted : 1/21/2009 12:47:55 AM Add your DMT muck to the Naphtha and shake until it's dissolved. I was following the standard SVG tek instructions (100 g MHRB, 750 ML water, 30 g salt, 100 g lye), had everything all put together and ready to goand my dumb ass grabs the can of Acetone instead of Naptha and dumbs 150 ml of Acetone into my mixture. g. More posts you may like r/DMT. Cheeto #41. EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. Lebre #1. tightly cover the baking dish (id est jars) work better than baking dish for him 3) The naphtha can be poured off quickly and messy or slowly and gently. This advance merely opens the door for pulling real fumarate out of a DMT mixture considerably easier using acetone. shrdlu Rising Star. For every ½ gram of DMT, you will use 50ml of fresh Naphtha or Heptane. Figured the bark must have oxidated due to age and the naphtha wasn't able to pull dmt-oxide etc. Acetone and ethanol are incredibly safer to ingest. So if you use acetone as your non polar solvent it will mix with the basic water and it will not And yes, there are many solvents that could potentially be used. Naphtha is around 4. Basically most of the naphthas around are a mixture of short aliphatic hydrocarbons, i. ] Acetone is miscible with naphtha; what you have done so far will not help as the acetone will completely prevent Pitubo, can you please show me where I asked what anhydrous acetone is? I never did that. Allow acetone to evaporate in a dark, well-ventilated area. Mix it. Can I use butane instead of naphtha Extraction Question/Discussion Have only done 2 extractions and I’ve found it hard to get naphtha in the uk so I use heptane instead, however I feel like my yields are fairly low Yes, Acetone can potentially be used. Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB: Options . Would u try it again 4 me , but acetone and salt instead ---dont have any dmt ingredients (plants ) rn but i love your idea Reply reply DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO. Posted SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. Thoughts? Locked post. Go for hexane if you can find it, since it is more volatile. CONSIDERABLY MORE will evaporate off the resulting extract than naphtha, xylene, toluene or whatever would be able to even under the most optimal conditions. Can I use chloroform instead of naphtha for a DMT extraction? I saw a procedure on PsychonautWiki but I really don't wanna work with naphtha. Heptane evaporates faster and boils at a lower temperature than naphtha. 3, Ethyl Acetate is 0. DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts CHAT PRIVACY DONATE: LOGIN REGISTER: FAQ ACTIVE TOPICS: Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. Can you use ethyl acetate instead of naphtha i can’t find it in nz Share Add a Comment. A high pH solution reduces the solubility of DMT. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? Naphtha is the most popular solvent. 1:3 Ethyl Acetate: (like 1:3 EA:Naphtha). i think it might have something to do with the acetone evaporating pretty fast, or the acetone not being dry. Now add 100ml of the same vinegar/distilled H2O solution. It doesn't pull DMT as efficiently as other solvents, but it's readily available in most countries. The idea of using DMT salts follows the commercial success of Juul's development of nicotine salts as explained in this thread. naptha which evaps rather quickly (hours to a day or two) is a mix of C5-C9 hydrocarbons; the really slow evaporating stuff has toluene, m- and o-xylene, and other aromatics. Anhydrous acetone is needed because mescaline (1:5,,,1ml(or less) naphtha for every 5g mHRb) freezing produces cleaner product as well. Still with heptane DMT fumarate is nearly insoluble in acetone, DMT freebase is very soluble in acetone. Put the tray in and let it sit undisturbed for 24 hours. Instead of using vinegar just use hcl or citric acid. If you freebase the DMT, then it's extremely soluble in acetone. Attitude. NPS for FASA Instead of using Aceton as the DMT carrier solution, some non-polar solvents through swim's experiences, a/b generally yields less (though purer) product than STB (even after recrystallization). A basic phase is hydroxanion-rich, and cation-poor (lacks protons), and those hydroxyanions disrupt interactions between acetone and water molecules. If you use pie teks then DMT Extraction Paths. Next time anyone is chasing xtals and has a leftover oil from re-X, perform and A/B on it, xtals should appear. Posted : 1/21/2009 12:47:55 AM But neither solvent will extract DMT N-Oxide. DMT was scraped and weighted. A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. FAQ Health and Safety Origins and Development. Acetone can be purchased at hardware stores but should be confirmed as pure acetone prior to purchase. Put all four of your collection jars (containing DMT in a naphtha solution) in the freezer and leave overnight. 3. To do this, dissolve the crystals in water and vinegar ph 2-3 and add some naphtha and absorb all the mineral oil residue with the naphtha and discard it afterwards, repeat this 2-4 times, then change the acidic dmt salt solution with sodium hydroxide to ph 12, and continue normally with the extraration as you know it. Zippo bought ronsonol and said that they were going to stop using naphtha in the lighter fluid like their own fluid. Can I use paint thinner instead of naptha? Extraction It contains 75% naphtha cas 64742-88-7 (marked as medium aliph) and 25% Xylene cas 1330-20-7 If it doesn't leave any rezidue will freezing it still leave a cleaner product? Share You can buy naphtha from eBay A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. DMT Fumarate precipitates out. Addition of 1 g NaOH to basify 3. 68, and 99. STB . He hasn't found any information on it (yet) since most seem to write about the other solvents in their recrystallization process (heptane, naphtha, limonene, etc). DMT should not taste or smell like naphtha so I think it's safe to say your buddy probably didn't make a very clean product. 7, Acetone is -0. Freebase DMT is many times more Hi, I've read some posts that say that DMT is highly soluble in Acetone, but I've noticed that nobody ever mentions Acetone in extraction threads or teks Which others solvents you have access to instead of naphtha? Hexane, heptane, octane, nonane, decane all will work for STB and freeze precipitation. 4. So if there is a substantial amount of acetate salts in the extract, then it must have been a pretty sloppy pull. Note that almost all acetone can contain up to 5% water contamination, depending on time and shelving conditions. 9% freebased at 11. So it’s possible a bark extract of acetone may directly afford fumarate without using naphtha. DMT-Nexus member. Shop All. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? A Safer DMT Extraction - No Lye, No Naphtha For one thing, it inspired a DMT extraction that doesn't require any lye or hydrocarbon solvents (like naphtha, toluene, etc. I did not find naphthat, but instead picked up this Klean Strip Painter's Solvent - [ Klean-Stripp Painter’s Solvent is a premium, highly refined solvent formula that replaces MEK, Toluene, Xylene and VM&P Naphtha for most applications. Add 500mL of naphtha to the jar and seal it. We’re a community connected by N,N-Dimethyltryptamine. Crank your freezer as cold as it can go. Reply. . Note: I didn't weight the difference. Naphtha pulls a wider range of plant alkaloids from whatever root bark is being used. Disregard what they are saying. The DMT is now in salt form but the fats and oils are still in the Naphtha. Migrated topic. heating samples to 40 °C and extracting with 1 pull of 25 ml Naphtha for 5 min with a magnetic stirrer Then the Naphtha was separated immediately and evaporated. DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca 5 pulls with 50ml naptha for each bottle. DMT-Nexus Resources. Posts: 17. lots of oils stay in naphtha instead of dried at bottom with dmt. I am trying Acetone for DMT Extraction . p. r/DMT. Thread Starter Thread You might also consider giving your filter a wash with warm acetone or naphta too and then freeze precip or evaporate. Hey guys, just curious as to what would happen if I let 100g of ACRB soak in acetone for 24 hours, filtered and evaped? As I understand it the residue would be a mixture of DMT, plant fats and other impurities. e hexane to decane, sometimes entecane and - neither naphtha nor acetone will dissolve dmt-fumarate, so fats/impurities that are pulled into naphtha from the basified water aren't much of an issue And one will get far superior results if the acidic MHRB solution is shimmered/boiled instead of just letting it sit for some time. What I am trying to understand is how different they are with regard to how much of a problem is it to use pure acetone instead of anhydrous acetone in the tek. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? Back in 2010. Prepare a DMT-saturated solution using either acetone or an NPS ensuring that its container will facilitate the collection of a precipitate and protect the solution from moisture. The nature of salt plays important role, e. dmt fumarate is insoluble in acetone and very poorly soluble in IPA, whilst dmt citrate, dmt tartrate and dmt malate are quite soluble in both IPA and acetone. If the Acetone is not dehydrated (some /all) DMT-Fumarate will stay dissolved in the water. I would first look up if people have tried it, and their results. Instead of using a pipette, you want to use EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. Sometimes a mini ab instead of re x. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Note: using acetone instead of Naptha or Heptane because it is not accessible to me Note: if this does not work, can I use something else Hi, I've read some posts that say that DMT is highly soluble in Acetone, but I've noticed that nobody ever mentions Acetone in extraction threads or teks, and also nobody mentions it in the many "what can I use instead of naptha" threads; is there a reason for this or would acetone work well as an extraction solvent instead of naptha? 'Round here, acetone is It's more selective for DMT than naphtha and dissolves it very well. Would you not get purer/bigger crystals by recrystallizing extracted dmt in acetone? For sure, BUT: Acetone and ethanol are not heavy hydrocarbon solvents. Best of luck to If one doesnt have a scale or for some reason cant weigh the spice, warm up a quantity of naphtha in a shotglass without the dmt and slowly add small quantities of the warm naphtha to the container containing dmt while stiring, until most dmt dissolved but a bottom layer of goo remains. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. Hello everyone I've been wondering, would it be viable for someone to use Limonene instead of Naphtha in a STB tek, Lazy Man's, let's suppose? EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. use a more accessible container instead of jar. Then follow step 5. Posted : 11/22/2008 3:37:21 You put your deem loaded naphtha into Pyrex as usual Then slap it in freezer for 24-48 hrs Then after said time decant (pour off excess naphtha) into another container then fan dry as necessary Will save you a lot of headache DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT Sodium (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO : 02-Dec-2011. I've never followed this step. solvent used instead of naphtha. 50 C is at the 74% mark of the liquid range of heptane while -16 C is at the 40% mark of the liquid range of heptane. DMT-Nexus, for all your information on Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » A/B » Sodium (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO : Options . Posted : 11/22/2008 3:37:21 There has recently emerged a third option (see the FASA Method) that forgoes the use of water, instead using acetone as the extraction solvent. My preferred ratio and tek is based on cybs and and fasa wash: - Add 75 g shredded DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca (Should SWIM use air tight mason jars instead?) 4. It To promote harm reduction through open discourse of accurate science in extractions, and the elimination of misinformation about DMT extraction and Ayahuasca brewing. Posted : 1/21/2009 Can I use naphtha as a solvent when making changa instead of acetone? I only have naphtha readily available besides 70% isopropyl alcohol, which has EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. 68. Safety. Sep 9, Now add 50g of ronsonol lighter fluid because you can’t find naphtha to the mixture. In order to be utilized for extraction, sodium bicarbonate must undergo conversion to sodium carbonate. Add your thoughts and get the conversation going. DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. They think you're suggesting using gasoline, (which is less than half octane) instead of ACS grade octane. I can promise you that 99% of the time, if it smelled and tasted of naphtha, it's because care was not taken in fully drying out Hi, I've read some posts that say that DMT is highly soluble in Acetone, but I've noticed that nobody ever mentions Acetone in extraction threads or teks, and also nobody mentions it in the many "what can I use instead of naptha" threads; is there a reason for this or would acetone work well as DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, I thought it would be a good idea to use ACRB (instead of MHRB) thinking I’d get a higher yield. Posted : 9/7/2009 5:13:34 PM DMT-Nexus member. Extraction Question/Discussion Archived post. acetone or isopropanol then evaporate to collect goods. Joined: 19-Mar-2009. Do not let the naphtha evaporate any more than half. Go. This TEK uses freezer chilled acetone to extract salvinorin while minimizing the extraction of other plant material. Ideas below are early development using a longer process going through DMT FB. NPS for FASA Instead of using Aceton as the DMT carrier solution, some non-polar solvents I THINK that the more volatile acetone will slowly evaporate from it. (which is necessary to achieve a good yield). As for how you can tell if the acetone has evaporated yet I don't know, but I doubt the extraction is screwed at all. Welcome to /r/DMT. In this case fully evaporate the solution to obtain the yield. To freeze precipitate DMT in heptane you dissolve the DMT in 50 C heptane (just below the boiling point of DMT making DMT more soluble in the solvent), and freeze at -16 C and it precipitates out. You can re use it in a later extraction or evaporate it and collect whats left. Last visit: 23-Sep-2009 The DMT oil takes a longer to dissolve in hot naphtha. You'd need to freebase it again and have another solvent that you can evaporate or freeze precipitate from. Your question is open ended. 1. Result is highly purified DMT fumarate ready for a second cycle of same. Submerge the jar with a lid little open I very hot water and take it out every 10min and turn it upside down so the ronsonol lighter fluid can catch all the dmt. To answer your question, the primary characteristics that will determine if it's viable will be the associated EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. Will this work? Limonene's vapor pressure is a lot lower than naphtha's (0. You can't freeze precipitate N,N-DMT freebase from it and you can't evaporate it. But that shouldn't be an issue? Unless acetone is reacting It cannot be separated out just as naphtha, xylene, toluene, DCM hexane, heptane etc separate out when mixed with water. Don’t use naphtha or lighter fluid though because it won’t work. Dried DMT; Naphtha or Heptane; A standard cooking pot A Pyrex casserole dish for freeze precipitating; A beaker or small mason jar; Preparing to re-x. Posted : 1/21/2009 12:47:55 AM Introduction. Shaking this vigorously will change the freebase DMT back into salt and they will fall out of the Naphtha into the aqueous solution. Posts: 6. In this respect, acetone is useless for pulling spices Acetone is to be used to dissolve magic and infuse herbs. Though it requires more careful processing and more thorough wading/cleaning steps. Note, I didn't just ask about acetone, but pure acetone. DMT will be more soluble Almost finished with first dmt extraction and am stuck on the last step, I've put the naphtha containing the dmt into the freezer and when I took it out the next day there was a solid frozen layer at the bottom, I'm assuming this is a mix of dmt and fats. Wiki. Last visit: 27-Jul-2009 Hi, I've read some posts that say that DMT is highly soluble in Acetone, but I've noticed that nobody ever mentions Acetone in extraction threads or teks, Dissolve 309 mg of Fumaric acid in another batch of 50 ml of Acetone. When naphtha is added, the DMT transfers into this nonpolar solution layer. 7, Acetone Acetone and Naphta are both solvents, Acetone just happens to pull a lot more than the DMT we are looking for. try using lab grade heptane instead of naphtha and I use a food dehydrator after I pour off the solvent and scrape the gallon jugs. Solvent contamination is about the nastiest, but that can generally be taken care of Title is self explanatory SWIM is interested in extracting DMT via straight to base from MHRB. I don’t know, worth a try! White spirits from B&Q works just fine as a naptha substitute, just don't bother evapping 75% as you will be waiting for weeks, just pop straight into the freezer then once crystals have formed discard the white spirits and plate the crystals in a pyrex dish and leave to evap, will take 2-3 days until there is no smell of white spirits left and the crystals are fully You can probably clean it with a small A B extraction. Upvote 0 Downvote. STEP 3: EXTRACTING THE DMT FROM THE NAPHTHA SOLUTION. I fear a lot of good DMT has been thrown away during re-X. If not, place it in front of a fan for 5-10 minutes to let some evaporate (thus concentrating the solution) and try again. Straight and Spiral Router Bits. Acetone instead of Naptha for extraction? Options . What's new. Day 1: Started with 100g ACRB, added 100ml vinegar, basified with 80g pickling lime, put in pie dish, then fridge overnight. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? 8/29/2022 Edit: DMT citrate e-juice salt has matured into a TEK. Figure 8 shake for 1 min (instead of 30 sec, no emulsion problems occurred), 10 min rest, repeat 4 times (5 shakes in total incl initial shake). one would need to do a m. A demijohn could be used instead of the tin below, provided that the bung is removed regularly when heating and shaking, to DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. Posted : 11/22/2008 3:37:21 SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. You can freeze precipitate DMT in heptane, and it seems to work better. When you freeze precipitate the DMT in heptane or naphtha, the DMT N-Oxide will not dissolve in the solvent and will sink Title pretty much says it all. Everything went accordingly until the step where the solvent is used. I thought of something, being that i'm going for freebase couldn't i just do a real good acetone wash, dry, frebase, dry, and go ahead and make my 3 acetone A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. (In my defense the two cans look nearly identical). DMT is highly soluble in warm naphtha (up to 50 oC - DMT boils at 67-68 oC) but barely soluble below zero, so the naphtha can be recycled and the precipitate dried rapidly. SWIM has 99% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL (IPA)and would like to use it as their Non polar Solvent (instead of Naphtha). Hello everyone I've been wondering, would it be viable for someone to use Limonene instead of Naphtha in a STB tek, Lazy Man's, let's suppose? SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. being that i'm going for freebase couldn't i just do a real good acetone wash, dry, frebase, dry, and go ahead and make my 3 acetone SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. how much of dmt can 50g of mimosa powder can make? if i use heptane instead of naphtha, do i it the same with the preheat EDIT - This thread has turned more into an acetone extraction question thread, check page 2. It is a hydrocarbon, and thus non polar, and can pull dmt from a basic aqueous layer. The FASA Method: DMT Fumarate and Beyond ("FASA" stands for Fumaric Acid Saturated Acetone. New posts Search forums. 100 mL of acetone can dissolve about 618 mg of fumaric acid) I had no involvement in discovering the methods described below; many thanks go out to Posted by u/subaru_natsuki337 - 1 vote and 6 comments A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. Question/Advice I was just wondering if this procedure will work for creating pure dmt crystals. 01 atm @ 50C). Will it work the same way, or do I have to do something different? My current procedure is cooking my bark with vinegar, basifying with lye, extracting with naphtha 4 times, crashing out crystals in freezer, and if needed 1-3 washes with sodium carbonate. DMT-Succinate (x) DMT-Oxalate (dust instead of real crystals) DMT-Salts that will be a wax (x) DMT Mescaline CIELO TEK DMT salt e-juice HIELO TEK Salvinorin Chilled Acetone with IPA and Naphtha re-X Turns out it still had ~0. Using heptane instead of naphtha? Thread starter azn921; Start date Mar 28, 2012; But, instead of the ammonia wash of the final product, use the sodium carbonate wash from Vovin's Tek Clean naphtha means clean DMT . Any other ligher fluid is also perfect if it pass the evaporation test (a small drip from placed on a spotlessly clean mirror evaporates without leaving any filmy white residue). SWIM was wondering if one used Bestine/Heptane instead of Naphtha for a pull out of basified water, does one heat up the Bestine just as Naphtha? SWIM knows that Bestine's evap temp is lower than Naphtha so it would probably heat a lot quicker but SWIM was just wondering if heating up the Bestine would work better for a pull than not heating it up. (not necessray to remove, but some prefer to), use heptane (or naphtha, if SWIY has a taste for such things). Do not proceed unless you are familiar with handling acetone, 99% IPA, and naphtha. Also the purity of it is often quite questionable. (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO : Options . test to confirm this. If it can easily be read otherwise and DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! (Bi)carbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT for an A/B (ALSO ACETONE EXTRACTION NO LYE NO. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? In the end it may even be a solution of Naphtha in DMT) Naphtha (20 °C, C6-C7) 2,93 g in 100 ml Naphtha in the freezer (-20 °C, C6-C7) 109 mg in 100 ml (Fumaric Acid Saturated Acetone) DMT Citrate. This time I carefully prepared a stb but now I see I added acetone instead of Acetone is in the middle so it mixes with non polar and polar solvents (to a point). I'll use that acronym throughout this post to refer to anhydrous acetone that has been saturated with fumaric acid. However, it makes sense to use acetone since it's a much quicker evaporating solvent. You have to salt out the N,N-DMT, which puts you back at square one if you want the freebase. I would try putting the mix in as open a container (big glass dish for example) as possible. Then, fill a large bowl with ice, sprinkle a bunch of salt on top and push the glass container with the naphtha down into the salty ice. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? Take your dmt-containing naphtha and put it in a small glass jar. New comments Naphtha is generally cheaper/more easily available, but personally I use naphtha for initial pulls and re x with heptane. New New media New comments Search media. has anyone had any experiences Forums. It has nothing to do with the DMT. the hardest part is to get the spice out of the jar. This helps one avoid residual naphtha. Same happens with DMT and Naphtha above the DMT melting point. Naphtha, however, is reported to cause fumaric acid to precipitate out of acetone, disrupting any significant chemical reaction from occurring. By this approach one knows when to stop pulling since at some point Hexane, heptane octane and nonane will be more than fine. I'd like to try classic A/B Lextek for my first extraction attempt, using limonene instead of naphtha as a NPS, so I don't have to worry as much about contaminants if I screw up. Be the first to comment Nobody's responded to this post yet. 6mg of DMT free base per ml of naphtha based on salting results. 6, Toluene is The DMT in mimosa is a salt, most likely DMT tannate. the logp of dmt is 2. Joined: 14-May-2009. Thread starter young_bot; Start date Sep 7, 2009; Prev. (General discussion on the use of DMT & DMT experiences should be posted in r/DMThub) But neither solvent will extract DMT N-Oxide. Even if that wasn't true at all. Would one be able to use sodium bicarbonate instead of NaOH in basifying DMT? Mineral spirits are a broad group of solvent. it's nice for making changa however. i have small (200ml bowls Plus using vinegar would make the product more edible anyway (I eat dmt). Latest reviews Search resources. naphtha, xylene, etc. You will be left with a bright green powder – about 1g per 100g of leaf. 69ron Rising Star. It is practically insoluble in acetone. Pour off and save the solvent, dry, and scrape. Xylene, toluene, and I always amaze myself with making all kinds of mistakes during extraction. So the long "CIELO Needles" absolutely need water to be formed and it is tightly bound inside of Hello everyone :d I've been wondering, would it be viable for someone to use Limonene instead of Naphtha in a STB tek, Lazy Man's, let's suppose? If so Forums. as for the ammonia wash. I thought of something, being that i'm going for freebase couldn't i just do a real good acetone wash, dry, frebase, dry, and go ahead and make my 3 acetone Welcome to the DMT-Nexus » DMT EXTRACTION » DMT Extraction paths » STB » Using Limonene instead of Naphtha in STB. [This tendency also depends on the type of plant from which you extracted, and that information may be helpful to include. DMT-Nexus, for all your information on and was wondering: i have some sunnyside (light) naphtha but can easily get some bestine after some research, it appears that defatting has solvent smell, you need to get your spice out of it, and let it air dry for longer. Weigh the result and figure your yield. Last visit: 03-Jul-2010. also acetone is a polar solvent as is IPA and not suitable for extracting from water. DMT does have a smell, but it is very different from the solvent. This powder is about 2 parts chlorophyll to 1 part salvinorin A. The naphtha that is poured out of your dish into a jar could have some DMT in it. Can you use white spirit / clean spirit instead of Heptane/Naphtha . has anyone had any experiences with heptane instead of naphtha? any noticeable discrepenacies between extractions with the variable being heptane or napthah? any precautions w/ heptane? DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! Visit our Mescaline CIELO TEK DMT salt e-juice HIELO TEK Salvinorin Chilled Acetone with IPA and Naphtha re-X TEK but simply a powder instead of crystals. I'll explain this logp situation, as it is relevant: the logp of dmt is 2. Mimosa is harder to extract than chacruna and chaliponga, so people tend to use sodium hydroxide because it helps break down plant fibers better. DMT fumarate is not very soluble in acetone. This xylene was used for the second pull etc etc. Yeah I was just thinking as acetone is much less toxic them naptha, if you were too dissolve dmt in acetone, the naptha would go to the top and evaporate first (assuming there was solvent residue in the end crystals or something), then the acetone, leaving you with naptha free dmt? but from what I read heptane is a lot less toxic than DMT-Nexus, for all your information on DMT, Ayahuasca and the sorts We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. NMT freebase should be very soluble in acetone like DMT too, Hexane, heptane or naphtha can likely be substitued for pet ether. I’ve seen mixed things about Ronsonol and I have it sitting around at home and was curious if you can use it instead of VM A harm reduction focused subreddit for discussing the processes involved in the extraction of DMT along with routes of administration (ROA), as well as a central repository for extraction guides and ingestion methods. if you have too much acetone remaining I would guess the naphtha may I THINK that the more volatile acetone will slowly evaporate from it. instead of naptha would 190 proof (95% grain alcohol, made for oral consumption and cannabis extracts. qfb ynl mhujr vzkmp xqsp bqkcnv ncyt hum dtvl btzv
Dmt acetone instead of naphtha. Thread starter young_bot; Start date Sep 7, 2009; Prev.